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		<title>Comment on Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? by Moat Again &#8211; A Labourer at the Bitface</title>
		<link>http://devilgate.org/blog/2010/07/15/who-lays-flowers-for-a-murderer/#comment-6330</link>
		<dc:creator>Moat Again &#8211; A Labourer at the Bitface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Labourer at the Bitface Warning: contains language from the outset   Skip to content About Martin McCallionSubscribe by email     &#171; Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] A Labourer at the Bitface Warning: contains language from the outset   Skip to content About Martin McCallionSubscribe by email     &laquo; Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? by Tweets that mention Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? – A Labourer at the Bitface -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://devilgate.org/blog/2010/07/15/who-lays-flowers-for-a-murderer/#comment-6329</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? – A Labourer at the Bitface -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Martin McCallion, Clapton E5. Clapton E5 said: RT @devilgate: My blog: Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? http://bit.ly/cXJ7YT [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Martin McCallion, Clapton E5. Clapton E5 said: RT @devilgate: My blog: Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? <a href="http://bit.ly/cXJ7YT" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cXJ7YT</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Subway Calling by Martin McCallion</title>
		<link>http://devilgate.org/blog/2010/04/12/subway-calling/#comment-6302</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin McCallion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah!  Thanks, Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah!  Thanks, Steve.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Subway Calling by steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s only been there since &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strummerville.com/joe-strummer-subway/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;last December&lt;/a&gt;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only been there since <a href="http://www.strummerville.com/joe-strummer-subway/" rel="nofollow">last December</a>&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Identity and letdown in The Raw Shark Texts, by Steven Hall (books 2008, 6) by Martin Wisse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Wisse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse the late reaction; just read this myself.

Reading this I was from the start prepared for the copout you describe, _but_ while the reality of the story is undermined by the postscript, the reality of said postscript is undermined from within as well. The ambiguity remains, which I personally like better than either the copout or making absolutely clear that yes, this is real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse the late reaction; just read this myself.</p>

<p>Reading this I was from the start prepared for the copout you describe, <em>but</em> while the reality of the story is undermined by the postscript, the reality of said postscript is undermined from within as well. The ambiguity remains, which I personally like better than either the copout or making absolutely clear that yes, this is real.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Next-Door to a Sequel by Jack Deighton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Deighton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 00:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, Martin.
I kind of felt the same about this book. (I reviewed it a while back on my blog.) I&#039;d read Natural History and it was OK but I didn&#039;t recognise any of the stuff in LNDTTGOL as relating to it.
And, yes, Pan MacMillan should have flagged the sequel thing on the cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, Martin.
I kind of felt the same about this book. (I reviewed it a while back on my blog.) I&#8217;d read Natural History and it was OK but I didn&#8217;t recognise any of the stuff in LNDTTGOL as relating to it.
And, yes, Pan MacMillan should have flagged the sequel thing on the cover.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Next-Door to a Sequel by Liam Proven</title>
		<link>http://devilgate.org/blog/2010/01/30/next-door-to-a-sequel/#comment-5723</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam Proven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, BTW, if it&#039;s not obvious, I didn&#039;t manage to catch up &#039;til it was too late. :¬)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, BTW, if it&#8217;s not obvious, I didn&#8217;t manage to catch up &#8216;til it was too late. :¬)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Next-Door to a Sequel by Liam Proven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam Proven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have not missed out, believe me.

I just read that in late December myself. I decided to catch up on my Robson before Novacon, as she was guest of honour &amp; I was on a panel with her.

I rather enjoyed /Mappa Mundi/ and /Silver Screen/ had its moments.  /Natural History/ is a strange, hallucinatory space opera with possible contact with a possible other intelligence which is possibly on another planet possibly in another galaxy. And has given us or possibly we have accidentally found a sort of FTL star drive thing that is also an AI or the alien or something.

It&#039;s very hard to tell. It&#039;s confused, self-referential, barely explains its own background or setting.

Kinda fun if you don&#039;t mind being permanently confused.

Then I read /LNDTTGOL/. This borrows a couple of references from /NH/ and makes passing reference to the primary Plot Device™.

I found /LND.../ almost unreadable, myself, and *very* hard work. It&#039;s a confusing morass of a book with no discernable primary plot, &amp; a whole bunch of the primary viewpoint characters who are basically nothing *but* dei ex machinæ. They can do whatever they want whenever they want to anyone they want, be anyone they want, except when they randomly can&#039;t, and nobody can stop them. But people love them anyway. Sometimes. Except when they hate them.

Deeply irritating book with no real redeeming features.

/NH/ is confusing but all right. You sort of mainly know where you are &amp; what&#039;s going on most of the time if you don&#039;t mind doing some guesswork.

But it has no bearing on /LND/ and /LDN/ as no bearing on it. It&#039;s hard to believe they&#039;re the same authoress.

/LND/ reads, to me, like one of those wretched Gwyneth Jones things which is all about &quot;questioning the nature of identity&quot; or some balls like that.

As for Ms Robson, stick to the one-off novels or the current robo-elf-pr0n series. They&#039;re actually quite fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have not missed out, believe me.</p>

<p>I just read that in late December myself. I decided to catch up on my Robson before Novacon, as she was guest of honour &amp; I was on a panel with her.</p>

<p>I rather enjoyed /Mappa Mundi/ and /Silver Screen/ had its moments.  /Natural History/ is a strange, hallucinatory space opera with possible contact with a possible other intelligence which is possibly on another planet possibly in another galaxy. And has given us or possibly we have accidentally found a sort of FTL star drive thing that is also an AI or the alien or something.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s very hard to tell. It&#8217;s confused, self-referential, barely explains its own background or setting.</p>

<p>Kinda fun if you don&#8217;t mind being permanently confused.</p>

<p>Then I read /LNDTTGOL/. This borrows a couple of references from /NH/ and makes passing reference to the primary Plot Device™.</p>

<p>I found /LND&#8230;/ almost unreadable, myself, and <em>very</em> hard work. It&#8217;s a confusing morass of a book with no discernable primary plot, &amp; a whole bunch of the primary viewpoint characters who are basically nothing <em>but</em> dei ex machinæ. They can do whatever they want whenever they want to anyone they want, be anyone they want, except when they randomly can&#8217;t, and nobody can stop them. But people love them anyway. Sometimes. Except when they hate them.</p>

<p>Deeply irritating book with no real redeeming features.</p>

<p>/NH/ is confusing but all right. You sort of mainly know where you are &amp; what&#8217;s going on most of the time if you don&#8217;t mind doing some guesswork.</p>

<p>But it has no bearing on /LND/ and /LDN/ as no bearing on it. It&#8217;s hard to believe they&#8217;re the same authoress.</p>

<p>/LND/ reads, to me, like one of those wretched Gwyneth Jones things which is all about &#8220;questioning the nature of identity&#8221; or some balls like that.</p>

<p>As for Ms Robson, stick to the one-off novels or the current robo-elf-pr0n series. They&#8217;re actually quite fun.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Link: Do I know where hell is?  Hell is in &quot;Hello&quot; by Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;God save us from crazy religious nutters&quot; - I am sure the irony is deliberate and is quite amusing.

However are they religious nutters are just nutters?

If they were truly religious they would see that their religion makes no injuction about using the word &#039;hell&#039;.  Likewise their religion doesn&#039;t prevent them from naming a town in Lincolnshire!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;God save us from crazy religious nutters&#8221; - I am sure the irony is deliberate and is quite amusing.</p>

<p>However are they religious nutters are just nutters?</p>

<p>If they were truly religious they would see that their religion makes no injuction about using the word &#8216;hell&#8217;.  Likewise their religion doesn&#8217;t prevent them from naming a town in Lincolnshire!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A quote from Amanda Palmer: asking for money for your art is not selling out by Martin McCallion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin McCallion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lynn, of course it&#039;s not.  I&#039;m checking my mail at the moment, and I&#039;ll email you at the address you left here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lynn, of course it&#8217;s not.  I&#8217;m checking my mail at the moment, and I&#8217;ll email you at the address you left here.</p>
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