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		<title>Comment on Con/Dem Nation? by Stephen Osborn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Osborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;So to read this, from the wordprocessor of the Tories (and LibDems) is remarkable:&quot;


I don&#039;t think so.  Parties of the traditional left believe in state control - hence Labour introduces thousands of new offences.  Parties of the traditional right believe in personal freedom - hence Thatcher freed working people from the closed shop, rigged union votes, financially supporting a political party they did not politically support, etc.


&quot;I have a gut feeling that cutting back on public spending during a recession is exactly the wrong thing to do&quot;


I would say that it has to be done with a lot of care.
- Necessary capital expenditure (especially on projects that are under way) probably should carry on.
- Unnecessary capital expenditure (e.g. rebuilding schools that are okay) should never have been undertaken and clearly should be stopped.
- Current spending should be squeezed considerably but without causing a panic.  Stopping recruitment is an obvious step - but still too hard for Brown &amp; Darling who permitted 20,000 new civil servants to be taken in Q42009.


&quot;(cutting back on most public spending is nearly always the wrong thing to do, of course)&quot;


That is plainly barking.  When you are spending £4 for every £3 of income you *have* to cut back.

Also all of the people in the public sector who are doing non-jobs (e.g. diversity managers) can be sacked without any adverse impact on the service and all of those on inflated salaries should have their salaries cut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So to read this, from the wordprocessor of the Tories (and LibDems) is remarkable:&#8221;</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t think so.  Parties of the traditional left believe in state control - hence Labour introduces thousands of new offences.  Parties of the traditional right believe in personal freedom - hence Thatcher freed working people from the closed shop, rigged union votes, financially supporting a political party they did not politically support, etc.</p>

<p>&#8220;I have a gut feeling that cutting back on public spending during a recession is exactly the wrong thing to do&#8221;</p>

<p>I would say that it has to be done with a lot of care.
- Necessary capital expenditure (especially on projects that are under way) probably should carry on.
- Unnecessary capital expenditure (e.g. rebuilding schools that are okay) should never have been undertaken and clearly should be stopped.
- Current spending should be squeezed considerably but without causing a panic.  Stopping recruitment is an obvious step - but still too hard for Brown &amp; Darling who permitted 20,000 new civil servants to be taken in Q42009.</p>

<p>&#8220;(cutting back on most public spending is nearly always the wrong thing to do, of course)&#8221;</p>

<p>That is plainly barking.  When you are spending £4 for every £3 of income you <em>have</em> to cut back.</p>

<p>Also all of the people in the public sector who are doing non-jobs (e.g. diversity managers) can be sacked without any adverse impact on the service and all of those on inflated salaries should have their salaries cut.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Things can only get&#8230; different by Stephen Osborn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Osborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
To some extent I don’t fear ID cards and the database state under a Labour government — even New Labour — so much as I do under a possible future Tory government.

Interesting, you don&#039;t worry about a, IMHO, totalitarian act by a party that has state control of everything (including the people) in its DNA but you do worry about how it would be used by a party that has individual freedom in its DNA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To some extent I don’t fear ID cards and the database state under a Labour government — even New Labour — so much as I do under a possible future Tory government.</p>

<p>Interesting, you don&#8217;t worry about a, IMHO, totalitarian act by a party that has state control of everything (including the people) in its DNA but you do worry about how it would be used by a party that has individual freedom in its DNA.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? by Moat Again &#8211; A Labourer at the Bitface</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moat Again &#8211; A Labourer at the Bitface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? by Tweets that mention Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? – A Labourer at the Bitface -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? – A Labourer at the Bitface -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Martin McCallion, Clapton E5. Clapton E5 said: RT @devilgate: My blog: Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? http://bit.ly/cXJ7YT [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Martin McCallion, Clapton E5. Clapton E5 said: RT @devilgate: My blog: Who Lays Flowers for a Murderer? <a href="http://bit.ly/cXJ7YT" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cXJ7YT</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Subway Calling by Martin McCallion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin McCallion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah!  Thanks, Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah!  Thanks, Steve.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Subway Calling by steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s only been there since &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strummerville.com/joe-strummer-subway/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;last December&lt;/a&gt;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only been there since <a href="http://www.strummerville.com/joe-strummer-subway/" rel="nofollow">last December</a>&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Identity and letdown in The Raw Shark Texts, by Steven Hall (books 2008, 6) by Martin Wisse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Wisse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse the late reaction; just read this myself.

Reading this I was from the start prepared for the copout you describe, _but_ while the reality of the story is undermined by the postscript, the reality of said postscript is undermined from within as well. The ambiguity remains, which I personally like better than either the copout or making absolutely clear that yes, this is real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse the late reaction; just read this myself.</p>

<p>Reading this I was from the start prepared for the copout you describe, <em>but</em> while the reality of the story is undermined by the postscript, the reality of said postscript is undermined from within as well. The ambiguity remains, which I personally like better than either the copout or making absolutely clear that yes, this is real.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Next-Door to a Sequel by Jack Deighton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Deighton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 00:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, Martin.
I kind of felt the same about this book. (I reviewed it a while back on my blog.) I&#039;d read Natural History and it was OK but I didn&#039;t recognise any of the stuff in LNDTTGOL as relating to it.
And, yes, Pan MacMillan should have flagged the sequel thing on the cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, Martin.
I kind of felt the same about this book. (I reviewed it a while back on my blog.) I&#8217;d read Natural History and it was OK but I didn&#8217;t recognise any of the stuff in LNDTTGOL as relating to it.
And, yes, Pan MacMillan should have flagged the sequel thing on the cover.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Next-Door to a Sequel by Liam Proven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam Proven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, BTW, if it&#039;s not obvious, I didn&#039;t manage to catch up &#039;til it was too late. :¬)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, BTW, if it&#8217;s not obvious, I didn&#8217;t manage to catch up &#8216;til it was too late. :¬)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Next-Door to a Sequel by Liam Proven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam Proven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have not missed out, believe me.

I just read that in late December myself. I decided to catch up on my Robson before Novacon, as she was guest of honour &amp; I was on a panel with her.

I rather enjoyed /Mappa Mundi/ and /Silver Screen/ had its moments.  /Natural History/ is a strange, hallucinatory space opera with possible contact with a possible other intelligence which is possibly on another planet possibly in another galaxy. And has given us or possibly we have accidentally found a sort of FTL star drive thing that is also an AI or the alien or something.

It&#039;s very hard to tell. It&#039;s confused, self-referential, barely explains its own background or setting.

Kinda fun if you don&#039;t mind being permanently confused.

Then I read /LNDTTGOL/. This borrows a couple of references from /NH/ and makes passing reference to the primary Plot Device™.

I found /LND.../ almost unreadable, myself, and *very* hard work. It&#039;s a confusing morass of a book with no discernable primary plot, &amp; a whole bunch of the primary viewpoint characters who are basically nothing *but* dei ex machinæ. They can do whatever they want whenever they want to anyone they want, be anyone they want, except when they randomly can&#039;t, and nobody can stop them. But people love them anyway. Sometimes. Except when they hate them.

Deeply irritating book with no real redeeming features.

/NH/ is confusing but all right. You sort of mainly know where you are &amp; what&#039;s going on most of the time if you don&#039;t mind doing some guesswork.

But it has no bearing on /LND/ and /LDN/ as no bearing on it. It&#039;s hard to believe they&#039;re the same authoress.

/LND/ reads, to me, like one of those wretched Gwyneth Jones things which is all about &quot;questioning the nature of identity&quot; or some balls like that.

As for Ms Robson, stick to the one-off novels or the current robo-elf-pr0n series. They&#039;re actually quite fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have not missed out, believe me.</p>

<p>I just read that in late December myself. I decided to catch up on my Robson before Novacon, as she was guest of honour &amp; I was on a panel with her.</p>

<p>I rather enjoyed /Mappa Mundi/ and /Silver Screen/ had its moments.  /Natural History/ is a strange, hallucinatory space opera with possible contact with a possible other intelligence which is possibly on another planet possibly in another galaxy. And has given us or possibly we have accidentally found a sort of FTL star drive thing that is also an AI or the alien or something.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s very hard to tell. It&#8217;s confused, self-referential, barely explains its own background or setting.</p>

<p>Kinda fun if you don&#8217;t mind being permanently confused.</p>

<p>Then I read /LNDTTGOL/. This borrows a couple of references from /NH/ and makes passing reference to the primary Plot Device™.</p>

<p>I found /LND&#8230;/ almost unreadable, myself, and <em>very</em> hard work. It&#8217;s a confusing morass of a book with no discernable primary plot, &amp; a whole bunch of the primary viewpoint characters who are basically nothing <em>but</em> dei ex machinæ. They can do whatever they want whenever they want to anyone they want, be anyone they want, except when they randomly can&#8217;t, and nobody can stop them. But people love them anyway. Sometimes. Except when they hate them.</p>

<p>Deeply irritating book with no real redeeming features.</p>

<p>/NH/ is confusing but all right. You sort of mainly know where you are &amp; what&#8217;s going on most of the time if you don&#8217;t mind doing some guesswork.</p>

<p>But it has no bearing on /LND/ and /LDN/ as no bearing on it. It&#8217;s hard to believe they&#8217;re the same authoress.</p>

<p>/LND/ reads, to me, like one of those wretched Gwyneth Jones things which is all about &#8220;questioning the nature of identity&#8221; or some balls like that.</p>

<p>As for Ms Robson, stick to the one-off novels or the current robo-elf-pr0n series. They&#8217;re actually quite fun.</p>
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